Category: Zone BBS Suggestions and Feedback
I was on line earlier and became involved in a discussion about community leaders. The parties involved felt that the community leaders were not accountable for their actions, and that, because they were merely appointed, and not elected, it seemed like an unfair process. Firstly, it would be helpful to know what a community leader actually does, and what his/her responsibilities are. Secondly, as this is a community, would it not be a fairer process for community leaders to be nominated, and then voted for by that community, as the people that are most respected by the other members? As I’m suggesting the idea I think it only fair though that fellow zoners vote for the idea to start with – after all you might all be in favour of j just electing the leaders himself and not want to be involved, but I think it’s only fair we should put the idea forward. Anyone in favour or against?
when the community leaders were selected, I'd only just joined the site, so I didn't really think anything because I still didnt' really know anyone, but now I agree that there should have maybe been some kind of democratic sellection. I don't have any problem with the community leaders for the most part but am thinking on the side of fairness.
I agree. zi don't have anything against the comunity leaders personally, but i do think there should have been a more democratic process of election. They're doing a good job, but I think there should be some changes made. They should interact more with the other people on here and ask our opinions on things. And they should actually come on here more. The only one I've ever actually talked to is rdfreak. So see what you feel like doing. The last thing we need is discord on the site which many of us love so much and have made so many friends on.
I think that they do a good job to, but that maybe they should have been nominated or aalected. I do remember though that J put a board up asking who wanted to be a comunity leader, and that wsa a pretty faire thing to do. Anyone had the chance to.
I'm up for this election, but it would have to be well planned and executed. very heavy publicity would have to be given to the nomination process and the election process itself, with a definate time window for the election to take place.
I like the idea of an election and feel that a few of these so called leaders,are particularly obnoxious and very childish.
I would agree with the ellection idea and would also agree with what Goblind said. To say that I dont' have a problem with certain small number of comunitty leaders would be a lye, but I already made my opinion about it clear on another post, in general i don't have a problem, but do think tht some of the Cl-s use their admin power for personal use and I strongly disagree with it.
I don't care so much about the ellection as I do care of CL's abusing their personal powers and there being a lack of published guide lines for their purpose and boundries and accepted behavior. They don't have to be roll models but I feel the minute they start using their power to make unnecessary and unjustified modifications to topic or anything of that sort I feel they should be warned and the second time it happens they should be deprived of that power and a new leader ellected.
This being said I am not going to single anyone out and this could be set up as a future policy and should certainly not apply to the few things that have already happened, no need to make a fuzz about them.
Cheers
-B
Or repeatedly using obscene language,in a certain post the behaviour of 1 was derisible, aren't they meant to be setting an example {Feck! I sound like an old prude!}
As for language, we don't limit language on the rest of us so why should the CL's be any different? At least in non-admin type topics. I disagree with just having a straight election, as it turns in to more of a popularity contest. I'm sure we'll be looking for more at some point, and we'll visit the issue of choosing them when that comes up. I'd be happy to discuss some options. As for guidelines or lackthereof, this is something that we're working on for everyone on the site. I think much of this is just a misunderstanding of how things should be treated.
Community leaders!=mom so what if they say fuck?
me oh my blindguy yet another gem from you to add to the collection...Sugarbaby it is a great idea but it seems we will just have to think of something else. Frey.
Hehe BlindGuy, you got quite a mother I see, my parents never cursed ;) may be that's why I ended up like I am (for good or bad) anyways, Icelandic cursing is a lot more imaginative than the f word .
J, I agree with your point certainly, I guess community leaders should have the same access to free speech as the rest of us, I'd really like to see the C.L. guide lines posted officially on the site for all to read. It helps us monitor each other and I think it's for the good of all and avoids confusion.
cheers
-B
the issue of langauge used by cls is an valid one, though if the topic in question is a clear joke, such as, and I hope you'll excuse me swearing on the board, the out f***king contest, then the langauge is somwwhat acceptable, as the intention of the topic is clear to all. Swearing on other topics is also acceptable within certain contexts. some ppl get really fired up about this or that on the rant board for example, and some bad language is written. after all, this site is not for family viewing, as it says on the front page, but we have tried, and are still trying to implement some guidelines.
I don't think I've seen any instances where community leaders have abused their privilages. Or, maybe I'm just dense?
I agree with J that a straight election would just be a popularity contest, and so the best CL's might not necessarily be chosen. But when more CL's are needed I think we should discuss the best way to get them elected or nominated or appointed or whatever the case may be. Personally i have no problems with any of hte CL's and think they all do theirj ob well, but maybe, Like liam asserted, we're both dense? Lol.
Liam
Well, I know of at least 3 instances were posts unfavorable to community leaders have been mysteriusly removed from the topic. I don't know if they did that themselves or what the story is and I don't really mind but I feel that falls within the "abuse of power". Granted this hasn't happened for quite a while now and I don't want to go into the specifics of what pots and topics, I only remember one so if you're curious you can message me personally about it, I don't want to start the blame game as largely I'm very happy with the C.L.s and what they have done, you included. I still think it's fair to all that we have public guide lines for CL's what they do and don't do so that we can refer to that if they get involved and see if their actions were justified. I think it's a good thing for the community really. Freedom of speech, sur, not a problem, removing overly offensive posts for some reason, also acceptible, but removing a post that disagrees with a CLs point of view or makes the CL look bad (without being overly insulting) is not good.
Chers
-B
well we're now logging all of that so if it happens again, we'll all know about it.
Ooh dunhnhnhn dunhnhnhnn dunhnhnhnhn lol jk! But ya I agree with Wilde that kicking off topics just because you can and they're notgoing your way isn't cool, but like Admin said, now they know! Lol.